In particular, that Martin was behaving suspiciously;
According to Zimmerman.
that the first media reports had very dishonestly edited Zimmerman's conversation with the 911 dispatcher;
This is true but it doesn't really matter. He still followed Martin despite being expressly told not to.
and most importantly that Zimmerman had already given up following Martin when Martin turned back and launched a serious and unprovoked physical attack on Zimmerman.
According to Zimmerman. (And seriously, you think that actually happened? It makes less than zero sense.)
Which, if true, rather makes a difference, doesn't it?
If true.
How does being 17 years old or carrying skittles or iced tea make one incapable of launching an unprovoked physical attack on somebody else?
Because normally we don't expect 17-year-old kids to attack people, especially people older and bigger than them, for no reason. I wonder, why do you think this is such a strong possibility in this case...?
The testimony varies: at least one eyewitness reported Martin on top of Zimmerman.
Can I get a link for this? I tried a Google search and the only people I could find saying this were random comments and right-wing websites.
As for the video, that was taken after Zimmerman had received medical attention and been cleaned up.
In the police car, supposedly. And yet he shows no signs whatsoever of injury. If he had really gotten beaten up, shouldn't there at least be some bruises or something?
I'm not saying that the evidence makes it iron-clad that Martin started a fight for no good reason,
And yet you stated this:
Well, yes -- if he hadn't decided to double back and physically attack Zimmerman, Martin would be alive today.
You sure sounded pretty certain there.
I would also like to repeat that I find it really strange that you think a 17-year-old attacking somebody for no reason is a more likely turn of events than a white guy (or I think he's half-Hispanic or something?) thinking a black kid is suspicious and so shooting him.
Re: The Sainted Martyr Treyvon Martin
According to Zimmerman.
that the first media reports had very dishonestly edited Zimmerman's conversation with the 911 dispatcher;
This is true but it doesn't really matter. He still followed Martin despite being expressly told not to.
and most importantly that Zimmerman had already given up following Martin when Martin turned back and launched a serious and unprovoked physical attack on Zimmerman.
According to Zimmerman. (And seriously, you think that actually happened? It makes less than zero sense.)
Which, if true, rather makes a difference, doesn't it?
If true.
How does being 17 years old or carrying skittles or iced tea make one incapable of launching an unprovoked physical attack on somebody else?
Because normally we don't expect 17-year-old kids to attack people, especially people older and bigger than them, for no reason. I wonder, why do you think this is such a strong possibility in this case...?
The testimony varies: at least one eyewitness reported Martin on top of Zimmerman.
Can I get a link for this? I tried a Google search and the only people I could find saying this were random comments and right-wing websites.
As for the video, that was taken after Zimmerman had received medical attention and been cleaned up.
In the police car, supposedly. And yet he shows no signs whatsoever of injury. If he had really gotten beaten up, shouldn't there at least be some bruises or something?
I'm not saying that the evidence makes it iron-clad that Martin started a fight for no good reason,
And yet you stated this:
Well, yes -- if he hadn't decided to double back and physically attack Zimmerman, Martin would be alive today.
You sure sounded pretty certain there.
I would also like to repeat that I find it really strange that you think a 17-year-old attacking somebody for no reason is a more likely turn of events than a white guy (or I think he's half-Hispanic or something?) thinking a black kid is suspicious and so shooting him.