Agreed. But I'm with Alexandra on this one - her mother is NOT a cat. If nothing else, she can still speak and have short-term memories.
Sorry, but that's nowhere near enough to form anything like a meaningful relationship IMO. Parrots can do both those things.
(Was that last meant to be in past tense?)
Yeah, my cat died a while back. :(
There's no real point arguing this - I'm sure you can cherry-pick nature-nurture proofs at least as well as I can.
True enough. I tend to instinctively side on the "nurture" part when in doubt.
Right, she gives up. Now I am not a mother, but if a close friend or sibling was sulking for over 3 days, I would insist on finding out what is wrong. Maybe you're right, and there are plenty of less than involved mothers around, who would ignore it. So fine, perhaps Claudia is just not the best mother figure.
Claudia is most certainly not the best mother figure. :p There are plenty of bad mothers out there. I think Claudia's about average TBH.
But I personally think she has the potential to be an excellent mother, but lacks this bond with Alex who she always knew was not truly hers (particularly when she began displaying her magic).
That is entirely possible. But if that was the case, I don't think it's because Alex isn't hers biologically. Rather, it would more be a case of having Alex be forced on her without giving her much of a choice.
I just don't want to put myself into the position of having to say parents are necessarily less loving toward adoptive children than they would be to biological children.
I wouldn't experience something as family if it didn't include a certain level of warmth, but as you pointed out, maybe other families work differently.
It depends on what you mean by 'family.' There are plenty of families that are technically families, in that the people there are related by blood, but so lack in warmth we might want to say they're not "actually" families.
I get that. (thought I wanted to go into clinical neuroscience, ended up only liking the research part, got research experience, thrived on statistics, and ended up in statistics-focused research field.)
*nods* This is why I try not to plan my life in advance--you never know what might happen in one year, much less 10.
Your philosophical hairsplitting is confusing me. :)
Heh. You could say that the printing press was invented by "Gutenberg," just by the Gutenberg who existed before he got amnesia.
I think my point is that a person's memories are not the only thing that make them who they are, even according to you. I believe a person's actions make them who they are, but of course they are based on memories. So we both get to the same point by opposite directions. Did that make sense?
It makes perfect sense, and I agree. :)
Thanks, yes I did, my workload is now reduced to below crisis proportions.
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Sorry, but that's nowhere near enough to form anything like a meaningful relationship IMO. Parrots can do both those things.
(Was that last meant to be in past tense?)
Yeah, my cat died a while back. :(
There's no real point arguing this - I'm sure you can cherry-pick nature-nurture proofs at least as well as I can.
True enough. I tend to instinctively side on the "nurture" part when in doubt.
Right, she gives up. Now I am not a mother, but if a close friend or sibling was sulking for over 3 days, I would insist on finding out what is wrong. Maybe you're right, and there are plenty of less than involved mothers around, who would ignore it. So fine, perhaps Claudia is just not the best mother figure.
Claudia is most certainly not the best mother figure. :p There are plenty of bad mothers out there. I think Claudia's about average TBH.
But I personally think she has the potential to be an excellent mother, but lacks this bond with Alex who she always knew was not truly hers (particularly when she began displaying her magic).
That is entirely possible. But if that was the case, I don't think it's because Alex isn't hers biologically. Rather, it would more be a case of having Alex be forced on her without giving her much of a choice.
I just don't want to put myself into the position of having to say parents are necessarily less loving toward adoptive children than they would be to biological children.
I wouldn't experience something as family if it didn't include a certain level of warmth, but as you pointed out, maybe other families work differently.
It depends on what you mean by 'family.' There are plenty of families that are technically families, in that the people there are related by blood, but so lack in warmth we might want to say they're not "actually" families.
I get that. (thought I wanted to go into clinical neuroscience, ended up only liking the research part, got research experience, thrived on statistics, and ended up in statistics-focused research field.)
*nods* This is why I try not to plan my life in advance--you never know what might happen in one year, much less 10.
Your philosophical hairsplitting is confusing me. :)
Heh. You could say that the printing press was invented by "Gutenberg," just by the Gutenberg who existed before he got amnesia.
I think my point is that a person's memories are not the only thing that make them who they are, even according to you. I believe a person's actions make them who they are, but of course they are based on memories. So we both get to the same point by opposite directions. Did that make sense?
It makes perfect sense, and I agree. :)
Thanks, yes I did, my workload is now reduced to below crisis proportions.
Yay!