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inverarity ([personal profile] inverarity) wrote2012-08-07 09:51 pm

Alexandra Quick and the Thorn Circle: Author's Notes (Chapter 12: A Confederation of Wizards)



Chapter 12 — A Confederation of Wizards.

This chapter starts out with more banter between Alex and her friends, including Darla and Angelique (who I have always liked, even if they began as minor characters mostly intended as comedy relief). We also see the beginning of David's ASPEW involvement, and he and Anna settling comfortably into their roles as Alexandra's friends who will stick by her even when she's being a jerk. (Constance and Forbearance too, but they are mostly absent from this chapter.)


Now that David was talking to Alexandra again, he began talking a lot about the various causes taken up by students at Charmbridge – abolition of elf slavery, recognition of the rights of ghosts, a lifting of wand restrictions, and outlawing Obliviation. He was becoming quite passionate about these issues, especially ASPEW.

“You've still never actually talked to an elf,” Alexandra pointed out.

“That's because they keep the elves out of sight here at school. Why don't you come to the ASPEW meetings? Anna said she would.”

Anna nodded, looking a little embarrassed. They were eating lunch. Darla and Angelique were sitting a little further down the table, trying to ignore them.

“I would,” Alexandra said sincerely. “But I still have to do detention every evening.”


One of the perennial complaints of hardcore Potter critics is that Rowling raised many social issues in her books — the status of elves, goblins, and Muggle-borns, use of magic on behalf of Muggles, the ethics of Unforgivables, etc. — and mostly let them drop on the floor in the end.

I have taken up some of those issues in my own stories, both the AQ series and HHD, but sometimes people overestimate the degree to which I am trying to "fix" the Potterverse. I have even been accused of writing "Take thats!" directed at Rowling, but honestly, that was never my intention. Yes, I did think Rowling left a lot of things unresolved or lazily dealt with, but for me, those issues are thought exercises, ideas for me to explore, not "ARRRRGH RAGE WHY DIDN'T ROWLING ANSWER THIS VERY SERIOUS QUESTION?"

The issue of elves is one that I do intend to follow up on, but that doesn't mean that every issue will eventually get a resolution. (Alexandra only has seven years, she can't fix all the ills of the Confederation!)

You may notice in this book and the later ones that Alexandra is kind of half-assed in her support of David and his cause. She perceives a basic wrongness in house-elf servitude, but she's easily convinced by Bran and Poe's seeming contentment, and the elves she meets at Croatoa, that maybe there is something she's missing. The truth is, she doesn't see anything overtly cruel being done to elves, so the injustice of their slavery doesn't stoke the fires of indignation in her like it does for David.

Which means, basically, some of the excuses she gives for not joining ASPEW are pretty lame. She just doesn't want to, because while she thinks David is kind of right, she's also not sure he's completely right.

Anna was not a goblin, however. She was one of the students who spent most of her time in the library or study hall. She was terrified of getting less-than-perfect grades, and so she joined the other students who were called “wyrms” for their endless book-learning. Alexandra didn't pay too much attention to the cliques at Charmbridge; as at Larkin Mills Elementary School, she was aware they existed, but was an outsider to all of them. She knew that the athletes who played team sports were called “brooms” and were quite popular, especially with girls like Darla and Angelique. And there were other extracurricular organizations that students divided themselves into, such as the Wizard Rangers and Witch Rangers, and the Junior Regimental Officer Corps, and the Magic Band. Alexandra could not participate in any of these, since she and Larry Albo were still spending every evening cleaning floors and hallways with their Clockworks.


I do mention cliques like the wyrms and the brooms from time to time, but I never have made much of them. Likewise, while the JROC has obviously played an important part in the story, I haven't done much more than mention the other extracurricular organizations.

One reason I never had Alex actually going out for Quodpot or joining any other club until book two was that I just didn't want to have to write a Quodpot game every book. We saw Rowling got tired of doing that.

I'll note in passing that I've had, not many, but one or two readers, comment that Anna being the grade-obsessed Studious Asian Girl is a little stereotypical and unfortunate.

I can't say they don't have a point. But I'll plead the "Sometimes stereotypes are true" defense; I've known plenty of girls like Anna. If all the Asian girls that appear in my stories are meek and studious, feel free to whack me over the head for cliched writing.

She did learn that much of wizarding society divided itself roughly into “Old Colonials” and “New Colonials.” Old Colonials included Ozarkers, Highlanders, Palatines, Salem Traditionalists, Plymouth Traditionalists, and numerous other divisions she couldn't be bothered to remember. Darla and Angelique were New Colonials (they called themselves simply “Colonials”). Then there were Muggle-borns like David and Alexandra, and students like Anna who were from traditional Chinese or Native American wizarding families. There were other students who didn't fit into traditional wizarding society: Radicalists and members of the New World Druidic Order and other designated “Cultures” whose non-standard wizarding practices were recognized (reluctantly) by the Department of Magical Education.


There are a lot of names dropped here. :D Yes, I have a general idea of what sort of Culture each one represents, as well as some of those "Alternative magical practices." Some will appear later, but I can't promise they all will. I did manage to mention Salem and Plymouth Traditionalists in book two, albeit only in passing. I actually have their basic philosophies and the differences between them worked out, but I don't know if there will ever be an opportunity to describe them. Perhaps sometime I will write them up in detail just for your entertainment. (Plymouth Traditionalists: think "Puritan wizards." Salem Traditionalists: think "Witches still holding a grudge from 1692.") I know I have not always made clear the distinction between Old and New Colonials. "Old Colonial" is a broad category that includes many of the Cultures. So for example, Ozarkers are considered Old Colonials (though they would not group themselves with other Old Colonials or call themselves that, being even more exclusive). New Colonials are people like the Dearborns who subscribe to traditional Colonial culture but consider themselves modern, and don't link themselves to a particular Old World heritage. Torvald Krogstadt is an Old Colonial, but not a member of a recognized Culture. (He is from the Scandinavian wizarding communities who settled parts of the Midwest, but while they are loosely affiliated by history and tradition, they're too diverse and scattered and independent by nature to be a Culture.)

Ms. Grinder had finally started, grudgingly, teaching from their book, and the current unit was “Wizards in the New World.” In fact, it was almost entirely about America, but it wasn't an America Alexandra recognized, as names like Alta California, Deseret, New Amsterdam, and Arcadia were unfamiliar to her. She didn't see how any of this was immediately relevant to learning magic, so Alexandra wasn't paying much attention, particularly when Ms. Grinder went off on her frequent tangents.


Yes, I do have a fuzzy map of the Confederation, too, but I'm not likely to ever list and delineate every Territory.

“Exactly!” Grinder said. “Congress hasn't appointed a single woman Governor-General! Almost every other country in the world has had witches as Ministers of Magic. Britain had one over two hundred years ago! Yet we've had only a handful of women as Territorial Governors and in the Wizards' Congress.”


The Governor-General is not elected like the President of the United States.


“Those who weren't killed or imprisoned went into hiding,” Journey said. “Then, about the time you would have been a baby, that Dark Lord in Britain returned, and took over. Over here, there was panic and paranoia again, and no one trusted anyone else. It was a bad time, Starshine.” He shook his head.

“What happened?”

“In Britain, they got rid of their Dark Lord. Here, the Dark Convention was driven into hiding again.”

Alexandra mulled this over. It was a little confusing, and not at all like anything she'd heard either from her fellow students or in Ms. Grinder's class.

“So who were the good guys and who were the bad guys?” she asked at last.

“That's a good question, Starshine,” Journey replied. “Now, I think you have some leaves to rake.”


And this is the part that gets me lots of flack on DLP (well, one of the reasons), that the brief association of Abraham Thorn with Voldemort is pretty much the only reference in AQ to Harry Potter characters and events.

A couple more canon characters just might show up, or at least be mentioned, at some point. But no, I repeat my solemn vow: Alexandra is never going to Hogwarts.

Not a lot of forward momentum in the plot, but this chapter is short, and it was a useful one for me to reread. I did remember most of the historical details I mentioned here, but it's good to refresh my memory as to what I have actually described in the text already.

Since this was the history chapter: any questions, class? ;)

[identity profile] tealterror0.livejournal.com 2012-08-08 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The truth is, she doesn't see anything overtly cruel being done to elves, so the injustice of their slavery doesn't stoke the fires of indignation in her like it does for David.

What about Quimley? She has physical proof of what some people do to their house-elves. (Of course, Abraham theoretically ended that with his law...)

But I'll plead the "Sometimes stereotypes are true" defense; I've known plenty of girls like Anna. If all the Asian girls that appear in my stories are meek and studious, feel free to whack me over the head for cliched writing.

Um...all the Asian girls who appear in your stories kind of are meek and studious.

Other than Anna, as Ascot Gavotte says the only Asian girl in the AQ series is Tomo. Tomo's certainly studious, and is meek toward Alex at least.

In HHD, the only Asian girl I can recall is the one who barely speaks any English. We don't know very much about her but she's definitely meek and is most likely studious.

So...yeah. Take that as you will.

Since this was the history chapter: any questions, class?

I assume the Wizarding community in America once affiliated themselves with the British, right? Was there a Revolution in Wizarding America like there was in Muggle America?
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A short history of Wizarding America

[identity profile] inverarity.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'll have to watch that.

Quimley does make her question the system more, but when every other elf she meets seems happy, she doesn't quite have the perspective to start asking the right questions.

I assume the Wizarding community in America once affiliated themselves with the British, right? Was there a Revolution in Wizarding America like there was in Muggle America?


The first (European) wizard settlers in the New World came over with Muggle colonists, so originally they were governed by the Ministry of Magic. By the time of the American Revolution, North American wizards had already formed autonomous territories with only token recognition of the Ministry. They basically told the Ministry at that point that they could handle their own affairs from here on out, thank you very much.

The Ministry threatened to bring them back into line, and even sent some wizards over to try and back up the threat. This prompted the formal creation of the Confederation. It quickly became apparent that fighting a wizarding war across an ocean made no military or economic sense, so after exchanging some harsh words, the split was effected more or less peacefully.

British and American wizards to this day are not overly friendly, (and do not have the special relationship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Relationship) that the US and the UK do).

Re: A short history of Wizarding America

[identity profile] tealterror0.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
As long as you don't introduce a character whose only purpose is to be a non-meek non-studious Asian girl, it's cool. :p

Fair enough, I suppose. I do get the sense that this issue is going to be one of the most important, so I'll just look forward to its resolution. :)

Hmm...interesting info regarding the founding of the Confederation. Considering the very low population of wizards, I suppose it makes sense that the Ministry decided against warfare.

Another question (and this may touch on more spoiler-y territory so feel free not to answer). There are clearly a lot of immigrant communities in the Confederation like in the US. Did these immigrant wizards move to the Confederation for generally the same reasons people moved to the US, or were there any qualities specific to the Confederation that attracted people?
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Re: A short history of Wizarding America

[identity profile] inverarity.livejournal.com 2012-08-09 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Most came for the same reason Muggles did, but there was notably a higher percentage of Muggle-borns and half-bloods who saw the New World as a more opportune place for people like them. (Many of these became the "New Colonials," adopting all the pretensions of Old World pureblood families, without having to demonstrate the bloodline to prove it.) There were other reasons as well...

Re: A short history of Wizarding America

[identity profile] klaelman23.livejournal.com 2012-08-12 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
I've thought about how the American wizarding world would have formed. I'd imagined it would parallel in a lot of ways how immigration to the New World progressed over the last 500 years--people looking for opportunity, people looking to escape a lack of it, people looking to flee from economic stagnation and political turmoil and just looking for something new. If Purebloods are the Wizarding world's nobility, it would seem to follow that a lot of them wouldn't have made the trip to colonize. Maybe some of them, but probably the "lesser" families and the like who didn't have a ton of power and saw the opportunity to forge a place of power for themselves. That's where I like how you set up the "New Colonials", because that's what those sort of people do--they emulate those in power to try and fit in.

I could imagine a scenario where those fleeing turmoil would be rebuffed entry into other wizarding communities in Europe--seeing how insular they all seem, it makes sense to me that they wouldn't want to put up with refugees. I don't know how accepting the Confederation would be, but I could easily imagine wizarding populations in North America seeing influxes of people from those places, such as a number of Brits fleeing Voldemort. It would make for a very interesting community.