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inverarity ([personal profile] inverarity) wrote2014-06-23 08:32 pm
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Wow, fandom, you really didn't know?

It's kind of amazing to me that SF/F fandom is going through paroxysms of outrage and disgust and shock right now over the "revelations" about Marion Zimmer Bradley.

(tl;dr version if you've somehow missed it: MZB's ex-husband was a convicted child molester, whom she aided and abetted, and her own daughter says MZB molested her too. And apparently all of fandom back in the day knew that MZB's then-husband, Walter Breen, was a jolly fellow fan whom you just shouldn't leave alone with kids...)

The thing is, this has been public knowledge for years. I first read this many years ago. With the way fandom nowadays hunts down every stray tweet and tumblr that someone might have posted in an ill-advised moment, it's kind of odd that somehow this is only becoming a Big Deal now.

I read The Mists of Avalon in high school and remember it being an okay retelling of the Arthurian legend, but OMG so men-are-slavering-beasts-women-are-the-sacred-uterus-of-the-universe. I don't think I've ever read anything else by her.

So anyway, yeah, MZB was apparently an exceedingly creepy and horrible person, but like I said, until now I thought that was common knowledge.

And yeah, every single person back in the day who thought it would be too "mean" to exclude a known child molester from conventions because "Geek Unity!" deserves the beating they should have given Walter Breen.

[identity profile] kith-koby.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't know, but I really don't see how that matters. I've only read Mists of Avalon, and I enjoyed it as an original retelling of the Arthurian mythos, but otherwise it wasn't particularly noteworthy. Even had I worshipped the book, I don't see why it follows that I'd have worshipped the author in turn.

I think that's the big problem of a lot fo fandom these days - the belief that the Author is some kind of figure we should worship because he wrote a good book (the following around John Green is a great example of this).

[identity profile] tealterror0.livejournal.com 2014-06-25 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, there's a difference between believing an author should be worshiped and not wanting to read books written by child abusers. While I never had any desire to read a book by MZB anyway, I find the latter view quite reasonable.

On a (hopefully) more uplifting note, how've you been? (Feel free to tell me by email if you'd prefer.)

[identity profile] kith-koby.livejournal.com 2014-06-25 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, certainly, it's quite reasonable. But being shocked by it after the fact strikes me as a bit of an overreaction.

I'm excellent, thank you. Finished my Officer's Training, and am now the Education Officer of the Army Rabbinate, which is a fascinating and very gratifying job which I am very much enjoying. On the personal side, it appears that my courtship of my lady is very close to its final stage, so much that I am already looking at jewellry. And of course, in our age old hobby, I quite enjoyed the latest French Open. Nice games by the men, ending as expected, and a wonderfully tumultous tournament among the women, ending very happily (for me). How have you been? Feel free to answer by email as well.