Well, if you want to go all ev-psych you could tell a story about how we evolved to better pass on our genes so that's the only reason why we love our children blah blah. But I don't put much stock in ev-psych as a rule--at least not when it's so simplified.
Culture and biology are so inextricably linked it almost doesn't make sense to talk about what the origin was. More important is whether or not we can change it, and I think we can. Biology isn't destiny. True. It's a dinosaur or egg question, to use an evolutionary term. Agreed that it can be changed. Indeed. No need to go like "Pass the salt, adopted child of mine," lol. LOL
Hmmm. I hadn't heard of that before--that is interesting. But I think that's less biology and more, um, really early life experience? Before they're even supposed to remember life experience? I guess you could say it like that.
I do feel sad as well thinking about someone being unable to find their biological parents, but again I don't know whether that's instinctual or not. Anyway, I have no problem with someone wanting to know their biological parents; but I also have no problem with someone not wanting to know their biological parents either. It's up to them. rereading that I'm a bit horrified at how that sounded - I don't believe that feelings should be a base for an argument. As you mentioned, practically speaking, instinctual can be either bio or culture (or a million other things).
(There's an interesting TV show called "Switched at Birth" that deals with these issues, among others...) I only read. :)
Haha. Quite possibly. I'll have to try it out myself first and see. Yep. I never heard anyone say that raising kids was easier than being one, though.
I agree. You might enjoy this post. I did, thanks.
I think plenty of people learn to think of another being before themselves without having to get pregnant. Yes - they are usually good parents, but any parent has to.
Yeah, I know. You may be right. This is the kind of thing that's impossible to test, so we'll probably never know for sure. Precisely.
I wouldn't know. Surprised there isn't a TV show about that.
Before they're even supposed to remember life experience? I guess you could say it like that.
Well, I guess it depends on exactly when the twin, er, 'died.' If it was after the third trimester I can definitely see it...
rereading that I'm a bit horrified at how that sounded - I don't believe that feelings should be a base for an argument. As you mentioned, practically speaking, instinctual can be either bio or culture (or a million other things).
Actually, it's not so much that you used feelings as the basis for an argument, but that you used the fact that most people find not knowing your biological parent sad, which is fine (although that fact itself could use some evidence I suppose).
Yep. I never heard anyone say that raising kids was easier than being one, though.
I was joking, mostly. It does depend on who your parents are.
Yes - they are usually good parents, but any parent has to.
Agreed.
Surprised there isn't a TV show about that.
There probably is, but I haven't seen it at any rate.
Well, I guess it depends on exactly when the twin, er, 'died.' If it was after the third trimester I can definitely see it... The research mentioned this occurring even with twins that disappeared early. (My sibling's twin disappeared less than 2 weeks in the pregnancy.)
Actually, it's not so much that you used feelings as the basis for an argument, but that you used the fact that most people find not knowing your biological parent sad, which is fine (although that fact itself could use some evidence I suppose). Yes.
I was joking, mostly. It does depend on who your parents are. Everything depends. So no argument.
Well, it seems the discussion basically wound down, lol. Thanks, though--it was interesting! And I'm still not quite sure what to say about those "twin dying" studies.
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Re: tealterror
Well, if you want to go all ev-psych you could tell a story about how we evolved to better pass on our genes so that's the only reason why we love our children blah blah. But I don't put much stock in ev-psych as a rule--at least not when it's so simplified.
Culture and biology are so inextricably linked it almost doesn't make sense to talk about what the origin was. More important is whether or not we can change it, and I think we can. Biology isn't destiny.
True. It's a dinosaur or egg question, to use an evolutionary term.
Agreed that it can be changed.
Indeed. No need to go like "Pass the salt, adopted child of mine," lol.
LOL
Hmmm. I hadn't heard of that before--that is interesting. But I think that's less biology and more, um, really early life experience?
Before they're even supposed to remember life experience? I guess you could say it like that.
I do feel sad as well thinking about someone being unable to find their biological parents, but again I don't know whether that's instinctual or not. Anyway, I have no problem with someone wanting to know their biological parents; but I also have no problem with someone not wanting to know their biological parents either. It's up to them.
rereading that I'm a bit horrified at how that sounded - I don't believe that feelings should be a base for an argument.
As you mentioned, practically speaking, instinctual can be either bio or culture (or a million other things).
(There's an interesting TV show called "Switched at Birth" that deals with these issues, among others...)
I only read. :)
Haha. Quite possibly. I'll have to try it out myself first and see.
Yep. I never heard anyone say that raising kids was easier than being one, though.
I agree. You might enjoy this post.
I did, thanks.
I think plenty of people learn to think of another being before themselves without having to get pregnant.
Yes - they are usually good parents, but any parent has to.
Yeah, I know. You may be right. This is the kind of thing that's impossible to test, so we'll probably never know for sure.
Precisely.
I wouldn't know.
Surprised there isn't a TV show about that.
Re: tealterror
Well, I guess it depends on exactly when the twin, er, 'died.' If it was after the third trimester I can definitely see it...
rereading that I'm a bit horrified at how that sounded - I don't believe that feelings should be a base for an argument.
As you mentioned, practically speaking, instinctual can be either bio or culture (or a million other things).
Actually, it's not so much that you used feelings as the basis for an argument, but that you used the fact that most people find not knowing your biological parent sad, which is fine (although that fact itself could use some evidence I suppose).
Yep. I never heard anyone say that raising kids was easier than being one, though.
I was joking, mostly. It does depend on who your parents are.
Yes - they are usually good parents, but any parent has to.
Agreed.
Surprised there isn't a TV show about that.
There probably is, but I haven't seen it at any rate.
Re: tealterror
The research mentioned this occurring even with twins that disappeared early. (My sibling's twin disappeared less than 2 weeks in the pregnancy.)
Actually, it's not so much that you used feelings as the basis for an argument, but that you used the fact that most people find not knowing your biological parent sad, which is fine (although that fact itself could use some evidence I suppose).
Yes.
I was joking, mostly. It does depend on who your parents are.
Everything depends. So no argument.
Re: tealterror
Re: tealterror
Yes, well, arguments don't have to last forever, that's what I always say. I like coming to a nice peaceful compromise. :)
Thank you too - I sincerely enjoyed it (and discovered that comment discussions are a great means of short term self-reward.)