Soviet Russia is a pretty broad topic, so I'm not sure what specifically you're preferring to.
As for human nature, I was arguing about one aspect of it that I find is true. Obviously, what is human nature is a highly debatable topic and I doubt any two people will come to an agreement on everything within that scope. I certainly agree that to change is another aspect of human nature that is true, although how we are capable of change is debatable.
Point Three: Well, I'm not sure what to say here. To me, this part of your post contradicts almost everything else I've seen you write on this topic. We've gone back and forth, and I feel pretty certain that your stance is about the importance of morality guiding your choices against my selfish practicality, but then you say you prefer anti-heroes.
From wikipedia "Antihero": "Unlike traditional heroes...They may do bad things but are not evil. They may fight villains, but not for the reason of justice, or if it is for the cause of justice will take an "ends justify the means" stance. Their actions are motivated by their own personal desires, such as revenge. For example, an antihero may steal, vandalize, and perform other "bad" acts but may do so for a good cause or even an unexamined motivation."
Granted, this is wikipedia, but I checked a few different definitions and all support a flexible and somewhat ruthless moral code like I've been driving for. I've been arguing for Alex to be an anti-hero this entire time. Hell, Inverarity said as much in the main post. I suppose it was wrong of me to assume you prefer the protagonist that corresponds to your beliefs, but I honestly thought it was a given.
Regardless, it's pretty obvious at this point that we fundamentally disagree on what a person should strive to be. I respect your right to have an opinion, but I believe you are utterly wrong just as much as you believe I am, and I doubt we're going to reach a consensus. By now, we've both made our stances about as clear as possible and there isn't much more to be said without going off-topic. However, I thank you for an interesting and civil discussion.
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Date: 2012-09-10 07:20 am (UTC)As for human nature, I was arguing about one aspect of it that I find is true. Obviously, what is human nature is a highly debatable topic and I doubt any two people will come to an agreement on everything within that scope. I certainly agree that to change is another aspect of human nature that is true, although how we are capable of change is debatable.
Point Three: Well, I'm not sure what to say here. To me, this part of your post contradicts almost everything else I've seen you write on this topic. We've gone back and forth, and I feel pretty certain that your stance is about the importance of morality guiding your choices against my selfish practicality, but then you say you prefer anti-heroes.
From wikipedia "Antihero": "Unlike traditional heroes...They may do bad things but are not evil. They may fight villains, but not for the reason of justice, or if it is for the cause of justice will take an "ends justify the means" stance. Their actions are motivated by their own personal desires, such as revenge. For example, an antihero may steal, vandalize, and perform other "bad" acts but may do so for a good cause or even an unexamined motivation."
Granted, this is wikipedia, but I checked a few different definitions and all support a flexible and somewhat ruthless moral code like I've been driving for. I've been arguing for Alex to be an anti-hero this entire time. Hell, Inverarity said as much in the main post. I suppose it was wrong of me to assume you prefer the protagonist that corresponds to your beliefs, but I honestly thought it was a given.
Regardless, it's pretty obvious at this point that we fundamentally disagree on what a person should strive to be. I respect your right to have an opinion, but I believe you are utterly wrong just as much as you believe I am, and I doubt we're going to reach a consensus. By now, we've both made our stances about as clear as possible and there isn't much more to be said without going off-topic. However, I thank you for an interesting and civil discussion.